Just my rambling thoughts about being gay and Mormon

Thursday, December 15, 2011

Gal 3:28

"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" - Galatians 3:28

"Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose" - The Family: A Proclamation to the World

I don't pretend to know what these two statements mean.  Each needs a lot of definition and explanation, which we don't have.  But, if I assume for now that they are both essentially true, which is the assumption of the Mormon church, then might the following also be true?

  • Gender may not mean what you think it means, especially when used to describe the pre-mortal and post-mortal existence
  • Spirit "births" in the pre-mortal existence likely did not involve sex
  • At least one mortal example, Christ, was born without sex as explained by James E. Talmage
  • Therefore, both spirit birth and mortal birth can be accomplished without sex between a man and a woman


  1. Early Christian texts have all sorts of weird language about gender, which by and large ties to the mindset of the era. I'll probably get this wrong, but it's my understanding that at the time, women were considered to be in some sense incomplete spirits, and that they were therefore incapable of taking on certain positions in society. Saying there were neither male nor female in Christ may sound odd to our sensibilities, but it was really just indicating the egalitarian nature of the early church. Really, that line is nothing compared to the end of the Gospel of Thomas:

    Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

  2. It should also be noted that this didn't indicate that the early Church tore down societal roles. While there may have been "neither slave nor free," in that all could be equal spiritually, Paul makes it very clear in the Epistle to Philemon that slaves should remain slaves and be happy with their lot.